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paulm



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:43 am    
Post subject: lost sign up

hi i have used first spot for many versions now and will upgrage to 8 in the near future but i have one ongoing issue that has caused us a problem and we cannot find the solution it would be great if anyone has any thoughts

we only get a maximum of 1 in 15 people who enter a username and password actualy completeing the process i.e paying we have emailed a lot of these people and most say it was because they lost conection at the paypal stage and could not say loged on long enough to pay we have tried it from all over the net work and cant find a problem
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:27 am    
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Can you double-check the stability of your DNS using the nslookup? Try to issue nslookup in both client and FirstSpot machine.
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paulm



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:18 am    
Post subject: nslookup

hi Alan
we have done that and it seems stable but we are continuing to check
we use an external wan load balancer as we cant get enough band with otherwise we have one fixed ip for the incoming mesages from paypal i wonder if we should bind the firstspot ports to this conection so all requests only go via this conecction any thoughts please if so what port range would you sugesst thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:23 am    
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sorry one more thing i notice when i try to post pessages to you from the firstspot server that frequently i have to submit two or there times as my session is not valid could this be the same problem
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:14 am    
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No, this is due to sometimes our forum database is not very responsive.

Again, we need some hard data on nslookup. Please post your nslookup output here.
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paulm



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:36 am    
Post subject: logs

from firstspot sever

NsLookup Query the DNS for resource records
domain query type A - Address NS - Name server CNAME - Canonical name SOA - Start of authority MB - Mailbox domain MG - Mail group member MR - Mail rename domain NULL - Raw data record WKS - Well-known services PTR - Domain pointer HINFO - Host info MINFO - Mailing list info MX - Mail exchange TXT - Text strings RP - Responsible person AFSDB - AFS database X25 - X25 PSDN address ISDN - ISDN address RT - Route through NSAP - NSAP address NSAP-PTR - NSAP-style pointer SIG - Security signature KEY - Security key PX - X.400 mail mapping info AAAA - IPv6 address LOC - Location NXT - Next domain SRV - Location of services NAPTR - Naming authority pointer KX - Key exchange delegation UINFO - User info UID - User ID GID - Group ID MAILB - Mailbox-related records ANY - Any type
server query class IN - Internet CH - CHAOS HS - Hesiod ANY - Any class
port timeout (ms)
no recursion advanced output

67.222.132.198 is a non-cached DNS Server

[67.222.132.198] returned a non-authoritative response in 268 ms:

Answer records
name class type data time to live
paypal.com IN SOA server: ppns1.phx.paypal.com
email: hostmaster@paypal.com
serial: 2012182170
refresh: 7200
retry: 900
expire: 86400
minimum ttl: 60
600s (10m)
paypal.com IN 46 [No interpretation available]
hex ansi
00 06 05 02 00 00 02 58
54 49 E2 DB 54 22 47 CB
2E 23 06 70 61 79 70 61
6C 03 63 6F 6D 00 21 F1
09 5B C0 DB 79 2E 00 1C
76 71 3F 50 FC 2E 54 1B
03 EA 5A FC 60 2A E5 66
B3 94 D0 91 FF 72 71 8D
9F 79 7D 4C F3 B7 3E 8E
83 96 C9 F6 D8 23 8D 40
50 9E A6 02 88 B5 0D DC
45 4C 96 A0 B9 E3 EC F2
69 B2 D5 1B CF 30 9A 01
F0 5B 08 0C CC FC 29 31
27 88 0A 4C 0D CB 17 10
91 02 10 FC 31 6F 60 75
D1 8A FE 64 AA F1 E5 CF
09 17 A8 95 02 24 E1 2B
86 A2 6A EC C7 E4 E0 65
C7 06 FF 7E B5 6E .......X
TIâÛT"GË
.#.paypa
l.com.!ñ
.[ÀÛy...
vq?Pü.T.
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Ç.ÿ~µn
600s (10m)
paypal.com IN NS ns2.isc-sns.com 300s (5m)
paypal.com IN NS ns1.isc-sns.net 300s (5m)
paypal.com IN NS ns3.isc-sns.info 300s (5m)
paypal.com IN 46 [No interpretation available]
hex ansi
00 02 05 02 00 00 01 2C
54 32 C0 42 54 0B 30 C4
2E 23 06 70 61 79 70 61
6C 03 63 6F 6D 00 C8 05
53 45 A5 C1 E9 73 2C 42
66 ED 30 7F AF 3D C4 78
E7 9B A0 14 17 0E 37 C8
3D 03 15 59 17 6F 80 52
3E AA 54 3E AA F8 DA B1
45 18 45 AA 9D 06 52 8A
7B 55 AF AF 73 8D 08 7E
9F B0 68 AC 34 20 B2 E4
2A 28 5E BA A6 38 29 25
B4 0D 26 1F E1 5D 19 AB
D6 46 B3 FE 44 2E 5C DA
0D B8 96 5F 09 54 03 60
98 26 E2 C9 8F F1 88 A3
AD 98 A2 A0 28 19 36 9E
B5 4E 56 92 B4 6E 12 62
18 B6 3B 08 28 87 .......,
T2ÀBT.0Ä
.#.paypa
l.com.È.
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fí0¯=Äx
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300s (5m)
Authority records
[none]
Additional records
[none]
-- end --






FROM CLIENT COMPUTer

domain query type
server query class
port timeout (ms)
no recursion advanced output Submit
67.222.132.198 is a non-cached DNS Server
[67.222.132.198] returned a non-authoritative response in 234 ms:

Answer records
name class type data time to live
paypal.com IN SOA
server: ppns1.phx.paypal.com
email: hostmaster@paypal.com
serial: 2012182170
refresh: 7200
retry: 900
expire: 86400
minimum ttl: 60
600s (10m)
paypal.com IN 46 [No interpretation available]
hex ansi
00 06 05 02 00 00 02 58
54 49 E2 DB 54 22 47 CB
2E 23 06 70 61 79 70 61
6C 03 63 6F 6D 00 21 F1
09 5B C0 DB 79 2E 00 1C
76 71 3F 50 FC 2E 54 1B
03 EA 5A FC 60 2A E5 66
B3 94 D0 91 FF 72 71 8D
9F 79 7D 4C F3 B7 3E 8E
83 96 C9 F6 D8 23 8D 40
50 9E A6 02 88 B5 0D DC
45 4C 96 A0 B9 E3 EC F2
69 B2 D5 1B CF 30 9A 01
F0 5B 08 0C CC FC 29 31
27 88 0A 4C 0D CB 17 10
91 02 10 FC 31 6F 60 75
D1 8A FE 64 AA F1 E5 CF
09 17 A8 95 02 24 E1 2B
86 A2 6A EC C7 E4 E0 65
C7 06 FF 7E B5 6E .......X
TIâÛT"GË
.#.paypa
l.com.!ñ
.[ÀÛy...
vq?Pü.T.
.êZü`*åf
³”Бÿrq
Ÿy}Ló·>Ž
ƒ–ÉöØ#@
Pž¦.ˆµ.Ü
EL– ¹ãìò
i²Õ.Ï0š.
ð[..Ìü)1
'ˆ.L.Ë..
‘..ü1o`u
ÑŠþdªñåÏ
..¨•.$á+
†¢jìÇäàe
Ç.ÿ~µn
600s (10m)
paypal.com IN NS ns3.isc-sns.info 300s (5m)
paypal.com IN NS ns2.isc-sns.com 300s (5m)
paypal.com IN NS ns1.isc-sns.net 300s (5m)
paypal.com IN 46 [No interpretation available]
hex ansi
00 02 05 02 00 00 01 2C
54 32 C0 42 54 0B 30 C4
2E 23 06 70 61 79 70 61
6C 03 63 6F 6D 00 C8 05
53 45 A5 C1 E9 73 2C 42
66 ED 30 7F AF 3D C4 78
E7 9B A0 14 17 0E 37 C8
3D 03 15 59 17 6F 80 52
3E AA 54 3E AA F8 DA B1
45 18 45 AA 9D 06 52 8A
7B 55 AF AF 73 8D 08 7E
9F B0 68 AC 34 20 B2 E4
2A 28 5E BA A6 38 29 25
B4 0D 26 1F E1 5D 19 AB
D6 46 B3 FE 44 2E 5C DA
0D B8 96 5F 09 54 03 60
98 26 E2 C9 8F F1 88 A3
AD 98 A2 A0 28 19 36 9E
B5 4E 56 92 B4 6E 12 62
18 B6 3B 08 28 87 .......,
T2ÀBT.0Ä
.#.paypa
l.com.È.
SE¥Áés,B
fí0¯=Äx
ç› ...7È
=..Y.o€R
>ªT>ªøÚ±
E.Eª.RŠ
{U¯¯s.~
Ÿ°h¬4 ²ä
*(^º¦Cool%
´.&.á].«
ÖF³þD.\Ú
.¸–_.T.`
˜&âɏñˆ£
˜¢ (.6ž
µNV’´n.b
.¶;.(‡
300s (5m)
Authority records
[none]
Additional records
[none]
-- end --
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alan
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:51 am    
Post subject:

The command is :

nslookup paypal.com

Please issue the command in both client and FirstSpot
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paulm



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:49 pm    
Post subject:

sorry i had miss understood

this is from the server

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
*** Can't find server name for address
*** Default servers are not available
Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.5.1

*** UnKnown can't find paypal.com: No r

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
*** Can't find server name for address
*** Default servers are not available
Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.5.1

DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
*** Request to UnKnown timed-out

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
*** Can't find server name for address
*** Default servers are not available
Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.5.1

DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: paypal.com
Addresses: 66.211.169.3, 66.211.169.66

from a client will follow
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alan
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:16 pm    
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It is obvious that your DNS is not stable.

Please switch to Google DNS 8.8.8.8 ONLY for your Internet Network Interface, and then restart FirstSpot.
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paulm



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:56 pm    
Post subject:

ok did that and now this is the answer which is a bit confusing as we have only 8 lines which come into out load balancer
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paulm



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:56 pm    
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrato
Server: google-public-dns-a.google.co
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: google.com
Addresses: 74.125.230.34, 74.125.230.
74.125.230.40, 74.125.230.46
.32
74.125.230.41, 74.125.230.36
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paulm



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Posts: 81

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:58 pm    
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup google.com
Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: google.com
Addresses: 74.125.230.34, 74.125.230.38, 74.125.230.37, 74.125.230.39
74.125.230.40, 74.125.230.46, 74.125.230.35, 74.125.230.33, 74.125.230
.32
74.125.230.41, 74.125.230.36


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
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alan
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:01 pm    
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This looks okay. But is it coming from client or FirstSpot machine?

Also, please nslookup on paypal.com instead.
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paulm



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:32 pm    
Post subject:

Hi yes for the firstsopt server

and pay pal resutls

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup paypal.com
Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: paypal.com
Addresses: 66.211.169.66, 66.211.169.3


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
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paulm



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:51 am    
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from client mc
Lisas-iMac:~ Lisa$ nslookup paypal.com
Server: 192.168.0.1
Address: 192.168.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: paypal.com
Address: 66.211.169.66
Name: paypal.com
Address: 66.211.169.3

Lisas-iMac:~ Lisa$ nslookup google.com
Server: 192.168.0.1
Address: 192.168.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.41
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.46
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.32
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.33
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.34
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.35
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.36
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.37
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.38
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.39
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.230.40

Lisas-iMac:~ Lisa$
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